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Heading out to meet the morning Train       ©2009 Jade O.
Panasonic DMC-FZ30       2nd place, 122 points
1/50s, f3.6, ISO 80, 35mm, Normal Program, Pattern, no flash
Post-Processing: This is a three image composite. Rotated image, layered in train, and fox. Desaturated fox. Added snow blown by train, fox prints in snow, and shadow under fox. Smudged fox border. Cloned out hydro towers but left in other mundane elements to provide realism and contrast between extraordinary and mundane elements.       Extra Info: None
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Apr 22, 2009
    Congratulations Jade O.! The image is so well put together that I didn't realise it was until I read the PP notes!

Thank you so much for the comments you left on my Open entry in the 'Being Bill Algood' challenge. I'm not too concerned that it didn't do better. It was a flower for Bill to enjoy, and not an entry to compete with others. Nevertheless, your comments are very much appreciated.

Jade O.
Apr 22, 2009
    Thanks aprilesole. Your comments are always appreciated. You really help make these challenges fun!

Jade O.
Apr 22, 2009
    boar76. Thanks for promising to give it a try. I don't think you can do better or worse than anyone else when it comes to rating entries. We all have our views and it is fun to see how people vote and especially what they think when they leave comments. I think it is the feedback by votes and comments more than the actually ranking which makes these challenges so worthwhile and fun.

Apr 22, 2009
    Dear Jade I write here so You'll surely read this:
I want to apologize...You're right!I promise you
next time I'll vote and comment!
I'm not lazy...Believe me I just not feel to be able to
rate entries!

Apr 21, 2009
    Congratulations a lot of drama here~!

Jade O.
Apr 21, 2009
    Thanks to all for your votes and comments. I noticed that the top six entries all were within one vote (17 or 18) of each other so the actual ranking was a lot closer than usual.
Thanks for your comments akebono, rafinmelb and sunraygp. Thanks especially to Image-Anne for the affirmation that my goal was achieved.

Apr 21, 2009
    Congratulations, Jade O.!

I would have never guessed, that this was a picture that you created. Very imaginative.

Congratulations once again!

:-) Akebono

Apr 21, 2009
    I think this taking PP to far

Apr 21, 2009
    Well done. I ended up not voting for this but then I only voted for 4 of the top ten, so what would I know.

Apr 21, 2009
    I love the shot . I find it very well done..and frankly..though it made me uneasy..it made me feel something...I say mission accomplished, and very well done!!

Jade O.
Apr 20, 2009
    mrssawyer Thanks. I wasn't as sure this was that well done but I appreciate the compliment.

dodrizzt Thanks. I thought the fox was a much more subtle addition than the train but I forced the blown snow to ensure it was visible and make it obvious the train was in motion.

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Apr 20, 2009
    I know photo-editing is allowed, but this seems more suitable for a post-processing competition. It is extremely well done though!

Apr 20, 2009
    Very, very imaginative :-) at first sight, I knew the train was added (the snow blown is a bit, well, "pasted") but I thought the fox was in the original pic!! nice PP there, well done :-)
Makes my TT for its originality, nice and amusing idea, good luck :-)

Jade O.
Apr 19, 2009
    rafinemelb. Thanks for the follow up comments. I should have realized you could of course see the PP comments. The less is more theory is one I aspire to practice as well. The background rail image and surrounding terrain is shown straight out of the camera excepting the clone out of the hydro towers. Only the fox (and I think now the train) were desaturated.
Edited on Apr 19, 2009

Jade O.
Apr 19, 2009
    Thanks elliott, LindyB. I suppose if I had a better imagination, I could have found a real life image to capture.

Apr 18, 2009
    nice work on the composition. el

Apr 18, 2009
    Very imaginative and very well put together. TT.

Apr 17, 2009
    Jade, I can see the PP notes now, hence my 'manufactured' comment. I must admit I was a touch less impressed with the image. I really wanted it to be a capture. I tend to be on the less is more end of the spectrum on PP so cannot offer much to you in terms of doing anything different. That does not mean I disapprove of PP per se, I just make a virtue of my incompetence. I am sure if I tried doing what you have done here I would make a complete mess.

Still the fewer foxes the better. They are an introduced pest here and kill off way too much native wildlife as they have no natural predator except trains and trucks.

Jade O.
Apr 17, 2009
    rafinmelb I think you have a keener eye than you suspect.

The image is ever so slightly off-vertical but when I straightened it, it lost a lot of dynamic quality - I think the slope feel is aggravated by the sense of the horizon being off though the terrain actually does rise to the left but mostly I think it is the innate sense that the two iron rails are not on level and the three images which comprise the final are not quite all aligned on the same vertical.

I might add that this is intended to be a provocative image which invites an emotional response; and it is intended to make the viewer uneasy. I decided the off vertical added to that uneasiness because you sense intuitively that the elements are all just off somehow - and they are. So in the end it may be that just qualifies it as a failed image.

I'm guessing it won't score as well as "feel-good" images, such as sunsets and other idyllic captures, which seem to have broader appeal.

But I was interested in getting some feedback because I've wanted to do an image like this for a long time and I especially appreciate your detailed response. I'd be interested in what you think after you read the post processing info. and whether you would have done anything differently in retrospect.
Edited on Apr 17, 2009

Apr 16, 2009
    When I first saw it I thought what an extraordinary capture, but of course it is a 'manufacture'. Nothing wrong with that of course, it all depends on the strength of the final image. The emotive response is strong, perhaps because foxes are such pests around here, and the muted colours suit the shot. I keep worrying about the feel that the shot is tilting to the right. None of the lines do of course (I looked at posts and train), but I keep leaning left when I look to compensate, so something is happening there that worries me. In the end the gut reaction wins and I put it in my early favourites.
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