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  #147 Impressionism
Entry 20 of 30
   
 
Return to Cottage Harbour       ©2014 Jade O.
Panasonic DMC-FZ30       20th place, 32 points
1/500s, f8, ISO 80, 102mm, Normal Program, Pattern, no flash
 
Post-Processing: Two images, shot on tripod, one in focus base layer, one top blur layer, flatten, crop, duplicate, apply cubism and olify effects in Gimp to upper layer, adjust opacity.       Extra Info: None
 
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Jade O.
Sep 10, 2014
    True! I'm tending to agree with you about the expanses of blown highlights. You've convinced me!

leanneqld
Sep 9, 2014
    The first 2 Ansel Adams photos don't have large expanses of overblown highlights...the 3rd does and can't say I really like it to tell you the truth. But then he never used a digital camera nor entered a panachallenge.

Jade O.
Sep 9, 2014
    leanneqld I'm pleased to hear the application of PP played no part in your consideration in voting as I think that would have been unfair to those were led to believe that no one should be marked down for using it. And equally pleased to think you would have marked down these "Ansel Adams" images for their large expanses of blown highlights (large parts of the water or sky with no discernable feature other than white or bright light grey)...

http://francessmithlandscapes.files.wordpress.com/2012/10/ansel-adams.jpg

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-LXznbtOn_2I/T3_00U_-sYI/AAAAAAAAAPk/IfQIsbPFxgc/s1600/John+Sexton+-+Tenaya_Lake_Clouds.jpg

http://www.archives.gov/research/ansel-adams/images/aae19.jpg
Edited on Sep 9, 2014

leanneqld
Sep 9, 2014
    "I suppose if I had deleted the wording "apply cubism and oilify" you would have marked this higher?"

No it would have made no difference because of the large expanses of overblown highlights.

Jade O.
Sep 8, 2014
    Well, I do understand English is your second language and make allowances for it ;-) assuming you grew up speaking Australian 8-[)

NEAT
Sep 8, 2014
    @ Jade O Thank you all for your votes and comments. I really enjoyed experimenting with new camera techniques with this one. To me this was my best result, though it ranked lower than my Main entry.

Neat, this is what I thought you were saying....
After you noticed the fast shutter speed, you thought ("looks like") this was an effect produced through PP filters and hence "your not in my favs for that reason". Really I don't mind your grammar or misspelling, it is your challenge definition which drove me batty, lol! What does an "impression of impressionist art" mean if not something that looks like impressionist art? I understand what "More effort should be placed on image capture rather than post-processing" means for the person behind the cam but how anyone other than the photographer would presume to judge how much relative effort went into each of image capture and pp is beyond me (none of which is your fault, of course.)

Ok as long as everthing is cool with you it's cool with me, English has never been my strong point, but I'm working on it, ha!

Mepo
Sep 8, 2014
    "Oh this is you, hehe!"

I wish I'd said that LOL

Jade O.
Sep 8, 2014
    Thank you all for your votes and comments. I really enjoyed experimenting with new camera techniques with this one. To me this was my best result, though it ranked lower than my Main entry.

Neat, this is what I thought you were saying....
After you noticed the fast shutter speed, you thought ("looks like") this was an effect produced through PP filters and hence "your not in my favs for that reason". Really I don't mind your grammar or misspelling, it is your challenge definition which drove me batty, lol! What does an "impression of impressionist art" mean if not something that looks like impressionist art? I understand what "More effort should be placed on image capture rather than post-processing" means for the person behind the cam but how anyone other than the photographer would presume to judge how much relative effort went into each of image capture and pp is beyond me (none of which is your fault, of course.)

NEAT
Sep 8, 2014
    Oh this is you, hehe!

First of all, I spelt 'you're' incorrectly in the first comment on this photo, don't you hate that!! Also I didn't mark you down at all, I just didn't vote on this image, like I said below I had already decided you were not in my faves before I read all your PP techniques etc etc, so I'm confused as to what you meant by your comment, I very rarely have more than five or six entries in my faves, I'm very particular in what I like, you might call me fussy ;)

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Jade O.
Sep 8, 2014
    Neat So much for deleting the reference to "marking down" an image that is processed, lol! Looks really are deceiving - two images shot at 1/500s - if I had an ND filter and muti-in-cam exposure capability I suppose I could have done this in cam at a slower more crowd pleasing shutter speed. See my notes to leanneqld below.

The "tweak" in PP is really minor in contrast to the effort in getting this shot and figuring out how to use multiple layers (one in focus and one not in focus) to achieve an impressionist effect. If you think this is all PP, try getting the same result using only the same artistic filters.

As to the sky, well it was drizzling and overcast. Maybe you don't get that much where you are from but this is pretty much what it looks like - white bright featureless sky and sort of flat though somewhat bright grey everywhere else. See my note to eagle 1 below.

mrsawyer See last paragraph above and my note to eagle1 and Phil99 below. It looks like it is supposed to look - dull and flat and rainy which is why the boat is returning to harbour - never considered I'd need to explain that in the extra info. which maybe means this image is a failed image in as much as it fails to effectively convey the scene/mood.
Edited on Sep 8, 2014

NEAT
Sep 8, 2014
    Quite a pretty scene, but the sky is too blown out for my liking, would've been great if the sky was blue so it could pick up the blue on the boats, as is kind of flat.

I wrote the above and then I noticed the fast shutter speed, I actually thought on first glance you used a slower one. Looks like the rest has been edited using a filter, your not in my faves for that reason, I had already decided beforehand.

Thanks for entering though ;)

mrsawyer
Sep 7, 2014
    I think this is an admirable entry. I would prefer richer colors, as it looks a bit subdued.

Note: No demerits for post-processing, as multiple exposures was a technique referenced in a link on our forum.
Edited on Sep 7, 2014

Jade O.
Sep 7, 2014
    fc I think you are right about losing out because of the pp, but the Challenge topic did say, "Do your best impression of the impressionistic art style." And PP was specifically o.k.'d when the reference to "marking down" images achieved by PP was deleted. But from the limited feedback so far, I expect this won't do well in the end; I think it will have little to do with how well the image reflects impressionism and a lot to do with people who "mark down" PP'd images. We'll see.
Edited on Sep 7, 2014

forkcandles
Sep 7, 2014
    like the result you have achieved. i think you may lose out as it is a lot of pp work
maybe an out of focus shot with massive under exposure with a slow shutter speed

Jade O.
Sep 6, 2014
    Thanks, Phil. Yes I suppose I could have PP'd that area to narrow it but I personally like it as is. The boat was about to turn into the slip on the viewer's right, one or two boats from the distant end of that row. I think you are right with the touches of blue red and purple but many seem to think life should only be represented in full technicolour Fujifilm glory.
Edited on Sep 8, 2014

Phil99
Sep 6, 2014
    A really nice photo - just love the 'oil painting' feel with the little touches of blue, red and purple. I like the lead in lines of the 2 sets of boats towards the returning yatch but there is a large area of 'dead' space just right of centre which I'm not keen on (not a lot you could do about that!) - overall a delightfull image.

Jade O.
Sep 5, 2014
    leanneqld A valid criticism and point of view, even though I strongly disagree with the pp part of it in principle, the principle being that the Challenge was amended to specifically delete any idea of "marking down" due to PP. I suppose if I had deleted the wording "apply cubism and oilify" you would have marked this higher? (And believe me, most of the effort really was put on image capture. The PP was the easy and relatively minor part. I'd be interested in knowing your view on those images captured in RAW format or those combining multiple exposures/images out of cam vs those with cams which can do in cam multii-image processing - are they also too much post processing for this challenge? Or is it the use of "programmed" effects like oilify or cubism that you object to? See my comment to eagle1 below.)

[I know you are good so I'm going to add a bit; is there anyone who thinks Ansel Adams was not a good photog because his images were the product of his mastery of PP (dodging and burning in the non-digital darkroom)....

"An excellent example is the photograph "Schweitzer at the Lamp" by W. Eugene Smith, from his 1954 photo essay A Man of Mercy on Dr. Albert Schweitzer and his humanitarian work in French Equatorial Africa. The image took 5 days to produce, in order to reproduce the tonal range of the scene, which ranges from a bright lamp (relative to the scene) to dark shadow.[2]

Ansel Adams elevated dodging and burning to an art form. Many of his famous prints were manipulated in the darkroom with these two techniques. Adams wrote a comprehensive book on producing prints called The Print (Adams 1995), which features dodging and burning prominently, in the context of his Zone System. -wikipedia]

Mepo I agree it's an illusion (note the horizontal patterns in the reflection on the water and the vertical masts) but rotating the image really makes it look wonky~! I knew detailing my technique would cost me votes but the rules are the rules. It was a dull overcast day. Not sure if this would have been better with blue skies; the look would have been quite different.

eagle1 Appreciate the validation. Because it was overcast and a little drizzly (no wind), the colours are flat; the image as presented is reflective of the mood that day. (And that is why this one yatchsman who thought he'd give it a go was returning to harbour). I tried tweaking but adding saturation made it look wholly unnatural. If I had two to compare side by side, I think I would like this one better than the same image shot on a sunny day. (I should add the PP technique is what you -and some others- may perceive in the end result as shown but mostly this look is achieved by overlaying a blurred image on top of a sharp image - if I had a fancier camera which allowed multiple exposure images or a ND filter I could have achieved much the same effect in cam.)
Edited on Sep 8, 2014

leanneqld
Sep 5, 2014
    Too many white areas and post processing the art effects does not sit well with me for this challenge.

Mepo
Sep 4, 2014
    I know it's an illusion but I sense the whole thing is tipped to starboard. Love the treatment and the result. I appreciate the details of your technique. I think the sky lets this down which is a shame because the rest it is so well done. Still in my favourites.

Edward
Sep 4, 2014
    Although the effect here appears to have been created mostly from post-processing, I love what you have done. I attempted such a shot at my local yacht harbor, but could not achieve this effect (which I was aiming for). The only thing I would have liked to see is a bit more saturated color, especially since the sky is so gray and bland; however, this is probably more a personal taste. Still I give this high marks.
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By Jade O.


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